It makes me sick that either a) Hollywood doesn’t think a “white” audience could relate to an all Asian (or otherwise ethnic) cast, or b) the reality is that such a cast would not be as marketable as a studio demands. I want to punch somebody in their stupid head.

Fucking A – it really is the Kung-Fu thing all over again.

as a side note though;

M. Night Shyamalan is directing this – so were ANY of us really going to go see it anyway?

I know I wasn’t

Give me a break you super politically correct pussies. First of all, you write comics for a living, quit complaining you dumb cunt, do you know how many countries there are in the world where you can write comic books for a LIVING!?Second of all quit acting like Asian Americans aren’t getting their fair shake at the acting game. Hollywood is chock full of asian actors. Yo Yo ma just played one of the most prestigious gigs there are, and Tiger Woods is the RICHEST FUCKING ATHLETE THERE IS! The people at Paramount are artists as well, and if they want to put white people in their movie IT’S THEIR DECISION! No one is telling you to make an ethnic super hero in your pussy comics, so shut up, just shut the fuck up. And furthermore if it means so much to you, why don’t you get off your complaining ass and make the movie yourself. God damn nerds

I actually happen to make films for a living.

And M. Night Shaymalan is still a racist hack.

Hahaha.

It’s not every day you see a post like that with everything spelled correctly.

I would understand taking license if the character’s weren’t already asian and set in an asian country with asian culture and asian customs. It especially seems weird that an ethnic director wouldn’t be a little sensitive to it.

If Pirate Club was made into a movie set in compton with all black kids I’d be equally upset cause it’s not true to the source material. I just think it’s stupid to change things like character ethnicity for no reason other than, “most movies have white people.”

I also think it’s funny how riled up the guy above got.

“If Pirate Club was made into a movie set in Compton with all black kids I’d be equally upset cause it’s not true to the source material. I just think it’s stupid to change things like character ethnicity for no reason other than, “most movies have white people.””

Aw crap, so much for the clip reel I was going to show you this weekend, I even had Chris Tucker interested!

In my mind – i like to think that “Ching Chong Ding Dong” is either one of the actors cast – OR M. Night himself.

I LOVE it when people are on “nerd” sites – and then deride the opinions of the site or those that frequent it, and diss them as nerds. That just seems gloriously oblivious.

Like the time a girl host from G-4 drunk googled her self and found my friends blog bitching about her – and then crazily defended her not-slutiness in the comments.
True story.

I want to see that blog about the G4 whore…LINK! haha!

Though his spelling is correct he may have run it through a spell check before posting because though he makes somewhat good points (there are TWO highly respected asians in their respective fields), he made the stupidest argument which is “why don’t you make the movie yourself!” What kind of preschool answer is that? Not even taking legal property rights into account, where the fuck would a comic artist have enough money to make an epic movie period? Let alone one that takes place in a feudal ancient place. What a dumb-ass.

The movies I can think of in recent times that have asians in them is: Fast & Furious, Harold and Kumar, Better Luck Tomorrow and something with Lucy Lu. Other than that, this Derek Kim is pretty right… and I will admit, I started to read this thinking it was going to be a bitch-fest but the more I read and started thinking about it; this is something that goes overlooked many, many, many times. Good looking out Kill-tron.

First of all, I’m literally a rocket scientist, I don’t use a spell check I’m just literate. Second of all, “Why don’t you make the movie yourself”- not a bad argument. People who write/produce movies NEVER pay for it themselves, they find people who are willing to finance their production. It’s like an investment, if I put down so much into the production of this movie I should get this much back in return, if it isn’t a heaping pile of dog shit. If it really meant that much to the guy who is complaining about a racist Hollywood he could find the correct avenues for financial backing and make the movie himself. This is exactly what I’m talking about, if something is really important to you, you make it happen. You don’t just roll over and say oh whoa is me, I’m just an Asian comic writer no one will ever make my movie. The people at Paramount aren’t hunched over wringing their wrists plotting against Asian actors, they’re just stupid. Hiring 4 white guys to play Asian characters, more stupid than it is racist. All I’m saying is the days of hiding behind ethnicity or class are over, even if Paramount is a blatantly racist studio, it should just be a bump in the road if you’re truly motivated.

ROFL – You’re a Rocket Scientist – and you diss OTHERS as Nerds – Oh, Oh GOD that is fucking Hilarious!!!
Dude – news flash – You’re a fucking Alpha Nerd! I mean – really, reality check much?

sigh – Thank you for the laugh, You totally made my day Ching Chong, for serious.

…and there is Still is the property rights thing…
So the asian comic writer can’t really just one up and make the movie him self, So – Epic Fail in that regard.
But true – movie people are a CRAZY motivated bunch.

So rocket scientist, are you saying that this comic book artist, who btw, has probably no connections to the movie industry can find $40,000,000 at the very least to do this movie? All money based on being… a COMIC BOOK ARTIST / CONSUMER (not maker) OF MOVIES. If you can’t make that simple equation you give all rocket scientists a bad name. Just to shut down your arguement right here so I can tell you to ’shut the fuck up, just shut the fuck up’. Guess who owns the rights to the Avatar franchise? Can you say Paramount? Fucking idiot. You actually believe that someone who has no street cred is going to ‘get’ the rights from Paramount AND get financing? You are the dumbest rocket scientist I have ever heard, period. Exclamation point!

I, along with Swank do movies for a living and I can say without a doubt you have no concept of what you speak. Securing 2 million alone is fraught with almost years of finding the right person at the right place at the right time. What you are doing would be like myself trying to tell you something about elementary rocket science as if I knew as much as you (if you are indeed one, which I’ll take your word for).

Derek Kim was merely pointing out something that goes overlooked, and I agree after I honestly didn’t before reading his post. He didn’t say hollywood did it necessarily on purpose, he just made the point of noting what usually happens in Hollywood concerning asian characters. Which in the case of this movie which I have no desire to watch anyway, they are going to be basically doing what Al Jolsen did in The Jazz Singer only this time 3-4 Jolsens will actually try to be a black character throughout the whole movie. I don’t see how you can still argue your point rocket scientist. It is YOU who are the dumb cunt.

It is pretty hilarious when someone goes onto a site they probably don’t frequent or know much about, argue in a very angry, silly manner, then get completely PWNED by the members of that site.

Who says you need $40,000,000 to make a GOOD movie? How can Jared Hess a high school student from Preston FUCKING Idaho, get the $400,000 to make his movie? How much ’street cred’ did he have? Maybe you’re just shitty at your job? I must admit I’ve been to your website http://www.utahwolfproductions.com and I’m a huge fan. For every shitty Kate Hudson romantic comedy that comes out I blame you. How does that shit get the green light? Although I have heard about your latest project Pencilbot The Movie, where Dane Cook plays a lonely film maker who instead of getting off his ass and rattling the can to finance his projects wastes his life away on internet web forums. SPOILER ALERT: The main character’s movie is finally funded in the end by Tom Cruise wearing an eye patch.

Now onto the issue of property rights. Fine, Paramount owns the rights. But, let’s all step back in time to 1998 when Paramount released Deep Impact. Catastrophic asteroid impacts were all the rage and by all means Paramount had the property rights…or did they? Enter Armageddon by Touchstone pictures. It’s the exact same shitty movie done two times, by two different companies in the same year. So really you pull a Vanilla Ice, make subtle changes and make the movie Avatur rather than Avatar. I guarantee if I ate a bunch of broccoli and took a gargantuan shit it would be better than the Paramount movie Avatar.

Apparently it takes $2 Million to lure kids into taking their clothes off in front of a camera in your basement. There must be some subtleties to the film industry I’m not aware of.

Nice.

Another Stephen Groo fan.

You moved up a rung on my ladder of respect Ching Chong Ding Dong.

Well rocket scientist, normally I do not spend so much time here, but your penis envy is worth reading over and over again.

In response to what you are saying; Jared Hess made a short film in film school and wanted to be a filmmaker. $400,000 sounds about right for a high school movie where most of the props and costumes were bought at thrift stores. This Derek Kim, from what I understand, does not want to make movies. Just like I don’t want to be President of America, though I still am aware and speak my thoughts when I believe it’s going to hell. Should I start running for office because I notice something should be changed? My answer would be no. Do you see the rather large amount of stupidity that you keep shitting out of your mouth yet?

Apparently, you have a problem with people noticing flaws in established systems; that doesn’t bode well for things in your line of work.

Lastly rocket scientist, you say you’re a huge fan of “mine”, then later try to infer that I make kiddy porn with my 2 mill… do I really need to explain how that makes you a pedophile? Just quit while you sound like a complete and utter dumb hick hobo who just happened to find a phone with internet capabilities off the street. You don’t know shit, you are shit; just a big pile with no intelligent reasons behind your anger. And if you are indeed a rocket scientist, I hope you work in North Korea you dumb hapless fuck.

Please stop talking, you are only hurting yourself.

wow, this,, just went totally off into the zaney….

Um – and the whole thing about Deep Impact/ Armageddon;
This is called Group think.
Its this crazy thing that happens when a bunch of people come to VERY similar conclusions around the same time.
Ala – Tesla and Edison.

So NO – it really does not apply.

Those films were original screen plays. All developed from scratch around the same time.
Avatar will be what is called an adapted screen play – do you see how this removes the variable for group think?
its that whole property rights thing again.

And if his argument is in the spirit of making the film good – or better, then your argument to make a thinly veiled rip off and call it something like Avatar, is doubly erroneous – as it goes against the point entirely.

it is the whole “Do it right, or don’t do it at all!” mentality – that ARTISTS (and perhaps NOT rocket scientists) have.